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Titus Crow (series)[]

Given that these are stories defined as being about the character Titus Crow, it's hard to imagine what could be in this page that wouldn't equally belong on the chracter's page. Hrairoo (talk) 12:34, 6 July 2023 (UTC)

Another user has written that Spawn of the Winds, the fourth novel in the Titus Crow series, doesn’t actually contain Crow. As I haven’t read it I’m unable to confirm, but that for me would seem to justify keeping the pages separate. TheSmoog78 (talk) 07:14, 7 July 2023 (UTC)
Regarding the two pages in question, I think we should maintain both:
For the Titus Crow (series) page, I see it almost as filling a niche similar to a Disambiguation page, though not quite. The article neatly collects together everything published concerning the Titus Crow "Universe" even if the titular character himself doesn't make an appearance.
For the Titus Crow main article, one thing I can see us doing if we're concerned with bloat and would highly recommend, would be to reduce the Appearances section on his page to a mere link to the Titus Crow (series) page, similarly to how we do the Gallery Pages for certain characters. That way, the data isn't repeated twice, the main Titus Crow article can be skimmed quicker by those trying to find specific information the reader is looking for, and a handy link brings concerned users directly to the Titus Crow collection. MDGeistMD02 (talk) 00:44, 8 July 2023 (UTC)

Rat Person, Boucher, and Devolved human[]

For the three pages, I would agree that they could be merged into one page to cut down on the bloat on the wiki. The Devolved human and the Rat Person are both cited from the same story.

With regards to Boucher in particular, the game stats for those creatures aren't for an entirely new creature, but the name is the name of the family (Boucher) that degenerated into the Rat People/devolved humans as seen in Cthulhu Classics. The Bouchers could maybe have a separate section on the page, denoting them as such, but they could easily be combined with the former two pages into one. MDGeistMD02 (talk) 18:34, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

I agree with merging all three and giving the Bouchers their own section on the page. Only one thing, though, it just occurred to me that we could perhaps turn "Devolved human" into a disambiguation, to link all the species that "devolved" (I hate this word, btw) from humans: the Rat People, the Little People, the Martense Family, the Cave beast... -- BlueFrackle (talk) 15:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

Dagon, Dagon (Dungeons & Dragons), and Dagon (Pathfinder)[]

The three pages could be merged into one. With regards to the Dungeon & Dragons version of Dagon and the Pathfinder Qlippoth version of Dagon, both are pretty close to each other.

It should be noted that within Pathfinder, there is an entity known as 'Father Dagon' that is an ancient Elder deep One of near-divine status. This seems to be a separate creature from the Demon Lord Dagon, but I believe both have their origins in Lovecraft's original creation. Therfore, all of the information could be lumped together on one page. However, these differences should probably be stated for clarity, imo at least. MDGeistMD02 (talk) 19:09, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

Tru'nembra and Player from Beyond the Void[]

I don't see how Tru'nembra should be merge to Player from Beyond the Void. Neither is named by Lovecraft, but the name Tru'nembra is originated from Call of Cthulhu RPG and widely used, while google search for "Player from Beyond the Void" barely show anything. Neither article is very detailed, but Player from Beyond the Void has only three sentences aside from excerpt from The Music of Erich Zann.

If anything, I suspect the latter to be just fan fiction.My girlfriend was a loli. 16:51, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

They're two different names for the same being, that's why the pages should be merged in my opinion. It's the entity that was outside Zann's window in "The Music of Erich Zann". You're right in that Lovecraft didn't give it a name. "Player from Beyond the Void" is just what Michael Bukowski chose to call it when he illustrated the monster for his blog, while Tru'nembra is the name given by the RPG. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 14:27, 8 October 2024 (UTC)
In that case, I think Player article should be merged to Tru'nembra, not the other way around. -- My girlfriend was a loli. 03:34, 9 October 2024 (UTC)
Sounds fair to me. -- BlueFrackle (talk) 12:25, 11 October 2024 (UTC)