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::Could you precise that? (the title of the novel) I found mentions of Lin Carter creating it on internet, and I don't recall reading anything about "lesser" old ones (named that way) in any novel (or other formats) by Lovecraft. [[User:Undoniel|Undoniel]] ([[User talk:Undoniel|talk]]) 05:32, June 2, 2020 (UTC) |
::Could you precise that? (the title of the novel) I found mentions of Lin Carter creating it on internet, and I don't recall reading anything about "lesser" old ones (named that way) in any novel (or other formats) by Lovecraft. [[User:Undoniel|Undoniel]] ([[User talk:Undoniel|talk]]) 05:32, June 2, 2020 (UTC) |
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| + | :::I'm not sure it is what you were thinking about but there in Malleus Monstrorum, an RPG source book by chaosium, when they are describing the "Lesser Elder Gods" they mention Carter's "Zoth-Ommog". They also mention "Lesser Other Gods" to describe the fulte piper near Azathoth, citing Lovecraft's Dream-Quest to Kaddath. No mention of "Lesser Old Ones" though.[[User:RingoRoadagain|RingoRoadagain]] ([[User talk:RingoRoadagain|talk]]) 18:15, June 2, 2020 (UTC) |
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Old Ones from Robert E. Howard's Queen of the Black Coast
If someone has a serious reference, I'd be interested for a confirmation that the old ones mentioned in Robert E. Howard's Queen of the Black Coast are the winged ones later confronted in the course of the issue, and not the Great Old Ones.
The only sites, I don't consider them serious enough:
- Cons: https://hyboria.xoth.net/gods/great_old_ones.htm (citation used in a brief RPG page), https://whatculture.com/film/8-movies-wont-believe-set-universe?page=3 (movies trivia page) (both pages seemingly don't consider the fact that the term old ones was used for various groups and species).
- Pros: http://dave.monkeymartian.com/?cat=10 (more complete RPG page, but still not a confirmation)
Thanks in advance! Undoniel (talk) 08:56, March 26, 2020 (UTC)
- The story doesn't give sufficient information. No way to tell if the Old Ones that are spoken of in the "Queen of the Black Coast" are the Old Ones of the Cthulhu Mythos (or their equivalent in the Conan mythos) or they are the degenerated race of winged ones.Esparza3368 (talk) 06:52, April 1, 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for the answer!Undoniel (talk) 11:41, April 9, 2020 (UTC)
Lesser Old Ones
Another question, do anyone knows what/where/who is the origin of the term "Lesser Old Ones"? I suspect Lin Carter (or possibly Derleth) but I can't find anything on that so far. Undoniel (talk) 11:41, April 9, 2020 (UTC)
- It originated when the first novel by Lovecraft came out. Malcolm Daoson, Giant Catbass (talk) 03:04, May 19, 2020 (UTC)
- Could you precise that? (the title of the novel) I found mentions of Lin Carter creating it on internet, and I don't recall reading anything about "lesser" old ones (named that way) in any novel (or other formats) by Lovecraft. Undoniel (talk) 05:32, June 2, 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure it is what you were thinking about but there in Malleus Monstrorum, an RPG source book by chaosium, when they are describing the "Lesser Elder Gods" they mention Carter's "Zoth-Ommog". They also mention "Lesser Other Gods" to describe the fulte piper near Azathoth, citing Lovecraft's Dream-Quest to Kaddath. No mention of "Lesser Old Ones" though.RingoRoadagain (talk) 18:15, June 2, 2020 (UTC)